2,000pt Kislev / White Wolf army.

[Wargamer]

I am determined to get back into Fantasy, so what better way than to start afresh?

Here's my proposed army list.

Lords:
** Army General**
Templar Grand Master - 185pts.
Sword of Power.
Hand Weapon.
Shield.
Full Plate Armour.
Barded Warhorse.

Heroes:
Captain of the Empire - 147pts.
Banner of the Daemonslayer.
Full Plate Armour.
Barded Warhorse.

Wizard - 150pts.
Level 2 Wizard.
2x Dispel Scroll.

Kislev Boyar - 110pts.
Hand Weapon.
Lance.
Shield.
Heavy Armour.
Warhorse.

Core:
Knights of the White Wolf - 270pts.
10 Knights.
Full Command.

Kislev Kossars - 205pts.
20 Kossars.
Full Command.

Kislev Kossars - 205pts.
20 Kossars.
Full Command.

Crossbowmen - 85pts.
10 Crossbowmen.
Marksman.

Crossbowmen - 85pts.
10 Crossbowmen.
Marksman.

Special:
Teutogen Guard - 230pts.
20 Greatswords
Full Command.

Gryphon Legion - 325pts.
10 Lancers.
Full Command.
War Banner.

Main Army Total: 1152pts.
Allied Detachment Total: 845pts.
Total: 1,997pts.

[Deraj]

Well.... in your quest for protection from magic, and your apparent.... dislike of it, why not take a Priest of Ulric? (I think in the empire book they call them a priest of sigmar, but we all know that's a typo )

If you take a priest of Ulric, your magic counters are pretty strong, the one I suggest is Aldred's casket of Sorcery; what it does is allows you to steal the spells of an enemy spell caster. You have to be close (12"), but a mounted priest should have no problem with that. Imagine stealing even just 2 of your opponent's spells? Trust me, this can ruin anyone's day.

My only real experience on the Empire or Kislev is collecting their models, fluff, and what has been used against me, so.... you know, just a disclaimer.

[Arguleon Veq]

Love the theme, my White Wolf army is one of my faves too.

Not sure on the Shield for the Grand Master though, he is a White Wolf after all. I dont even think you can field him, he has to be the same type as a unit of Knights in your army so he would need to have the Great Wep, which means he cant have that Shield as there is no normal option for it. What I like for a White Wolf Grand Master is;

Full Plate, Barded Steed, Sword of Power, White Cloak, Helm of the Ratslayer.

This gives you a 1+ Save anyway, its fluffy as Mandred the Ratslayer was from Middenheim and the White Wolf Cloak is obviously fluffy.

It is more pricey though. At 245.

Both him and the BSB joining that big White Wolf unit?. If so, I think the only reason to really use the Banner of the Daemonslayer is so you dont suffer from fear when you charge. You wont need it here though as your Master gives you ITP.
If you want it for fluff reasons then fair enough but I would take the Banner of Arcane Warding instead on such a pricey unit.

The other issue is that those Knights of the White Wolf are only S4 with their Great Weps, I would never take White Wolves unless they were Inner Circle for that constant S5.

Not sure on those massive unit sizes either, thats a lot of points for a rank. I think you are just best with a 6-7 man frontage including characters.

If you aren't set on that BSB, then how about a Priest of Ulric, the models are still knocking about and you can just use a Warrior Priests rules, mounted with the Knights, the Hatred he gives them is a massive boost.

I think Kossars are best in either units of 14/21 for a front rank of 7 for 7 shots and a nice frontage to use those great weps with. Or 18 for 3 ranks of 6.

The Boyar joining the Legion? Again I would just cut a few models from that Legion unit.

So how about this;

Master; Wolf Cloak, Sword of Power, Helm of the Ratslayer, Barded Steed, Full Plate.

Priest; Barded Steed, Great Wep, Heavy Armour, Shield.

- These Join the White Wolves.

Sorc; 2 Scrolls.

Boyar; As you have him. - Joins Legion.

10 Crossbows;
10 Crossbows;
10 Crossbows;

21 Kossar; FC
21 Kossar; FC

5 IC Knights of the White Wolf; FC. Arcane Protection.
20 Greatswords; FC
6 Gryphone Legion; FC, Warbanner.

This takes you to 1903. Perhaps throw the Casket of Sorcery on your Priest for a little more magic defense. You could always add that magic level on your Sorc again.

So what got you back into Fantasy? Welcome back to the better game!