Post by Arguleon Veq on Feb 27, 2009 9:37:44 GMT -5
Game 9 - Vs Beasts of Chaos - 2000 Points
Never had a chance to play against Beasts this edition, I used my Dow Empire list;
BSB; Full Plate, Shield, Barded Horse, Icon, Dragon Bow.
Cap; Peg, Pistol, Shield, Lance, Full Plate.
Alter; Dawn Armour, Shield, Speculum, Great Wep.
Wizard; Doomfire Ring, Power Stone.
10 Crossbow;
10 Crossbow
5 Knights; Musician
24 Spears; Shields, FC
- 10 Halberds
- 8 Free Comp
18 Greatswords; FC
- 8 Halberds
- 6 Handguns
3 Maneaters; Handguns, Heavy Armour.
Mortar;
Cannon;
The Beasts list was as follows;
Khazrak;
Wargor; Chaos Armour, Great Wep.
4 Drogers; Great Weps, LA.
4 Drogers; Great Weps, LA
Khorne Chariot;
Khorne Chariot;
Khorne Chariot;
Khorne Chariot;
8 Hounds;
8 Hounds;
Ambushers;
11 Gors; 13 Ungors; FC
11 Gors; 13 Ungors; FC
6 Hounds;
6 Hounds;
+ Characters.
Pre Game Thoughts;
I have always thought Beasts were best suited to fighting armies that relied quite heavily on Fire Power, much like my list here. Khazrak would also be a pain and I had a lot of heavy hitter to deal with on the table to start. I would deploy right against my edge to stop them getting in behind me so he would have to deal with cheap throw away missile units with his herds for a few turns, giving me time to stop the heavy hitters and then turn to face the new threat.
Early Game;
Beasts went first. 2 Chariots down each flank, Drogers with Hound screens down the centre.
I opened up my shooting, busting a Chariot with a Cannon, killing some Hounds and a Dragon Ogre.
The Ambush was called, Khazrak and unit right in my right corner, the Wargor and unit in my left, each supported with a Hound unit. The Chariots and Drogers continued their advance.
I ignored the threats on my flanks for now. Shooting and Magic downing a few Hounds, wounding chariots, killing another Drogre and panicking the unit that was now down to 2 models. My Peg Cap charged the last Chariot on my right flank, doing a wound, the Beastigor did 0 wounds. The 6 S3 attacks from the steeds and Ungor then did 3 wounds on my Peg!, resulting in me breaking and getting caught.
Drogers rallied. Khazrak charged my Crossbow unit, the Wargors unit charging my Crossbows on the other flank. My Crossbows on my left fled. My unit fighting Khazrak was beaten and they over ran into my Handgun Detatchment. The other Drogre unit charged my Spears, 1 was down to 1 wound and my Halberd Detatchment killed it and did another 2 wounds, my Free Comp did another. I did lose a lot of Spears to their attacks but I won and broke them, catching them.
Surrounded!;
My Greatswords turned to face the threat on my left flank whilst my Alter moved across to try to deal with Khazraks unit. My Knights moved to take the charge from the Chariot on my right if I had to. My Ogres who had turned around last turn, now c harged the HOunds on my left killing them all. Magic did more damage to the rallied Drogres whilst my Cannon popped that Chariot on my right flank. Khazraks unit killed my Handguns.
Khazraks unit charged into my Cannon. The other Herd into my Greatswords [with no Detatchment support as I had sent the Halberds off to redirect the Drogers earlier but the Drogres had panicked anyway]. My Cannon was killed and he got a big over run and reached my Mortar. My Greatswords just lost the combat but held.
My Alter moved so that if Khazraks unit got to the rear of my Greatswords, he could then flank them. My magic whittled down the enemy to just 1 Drogre. My Ogres turned and finished a wounded Chariot bearing down on them with their Handguns. Leaving just 1 chariot for them to take a charge from. Khazraks unit got my Hotpot and over ran towards the Greatswords.
Closing Stages;
My Ogres got charged by that last Chariot, Kkazraks unit charged the rear of my Greatswords. The Chariot did 7 wounds! but lost 2 in return, my Stubborn Maneater held. Khazraks unit didnt do too much damage to my Greatswords and they continued to hack down the Beasts to their front.
My Alter charged the flank of Khazraks unit, Soulfire went off. My Wizard left my Spears to blast down 1 last Hound whilst my Knights finally got their sights on the last unit of Hounds and killed them all. I did a load of damage in that big combat involving Greatswords, 2 Beast Herds and the Alter, I won by a lot forcing both Herds to take Break Tests on LD 4.........BOTH PASSED!!!. Gah! My Ogre finished that Chariot.
The last Drogre charged a Halberd Detatchment but they beat it and ran it down. Khazrak and his Beasts finally wiped out my Greatswords and BSB.
My last Maneater charged the last remnants of the Wargor Herd, It beat them but they passed their break test. My Alter beat Khazraks depleted unit but that also passed another break test.
Result - Draw!
Post Game Thoughts;
GAH!, Getting really frustrated with these draws lately that I should have won. 3 of my last 4 games have been Draws. I was 50 points away from a win, that was 1 more kill on Khazraks unit to take them below half strength. I couldnt believe both those Herds passed Ld4 Break Tests!. Had they broke, I would have had a Massacre rather than a draw.
I was happy with my list and the game went as I thought it would, sacrficing my shooting units to deal with his heavy hittings starters before holding up his Herds and using my Alter and Maneaters to smash them. Just those break tests passed ruining things.
I think I will use my 1500 Ludwig list for my last game.
Never had a chance to play against Beasts this edition, I used my Dow Empire list;
BSB; Full Plate, Shield, Barded Horse, Icon, Dragon Bow.
Cap; Peg, Pistol, Shield, Lance, Full Plate.
Alter; Dawn Armour, Shield, Speculum, Great Wep.
Wizard; Doomfire Ring, Power Stone.
10 Crossbow;
10 Crossbow
5 Knights; Musician
24 Spears; Shields, FC
- 10 Halberds
- 8 Free Comp
18 Greatswords; FC
- 8 Halberds
- 6 Handguns
3 Maneaters; Handguns, Heavy Armour.
Mortar;
Cannon;
The Beasts list was as follows;
Khazrak;
Wargor; Chaos Armour, Great Wep.
4 Drogers; Great Weps, LA.
4 Drogers; Great Weps, LA
Khorne Chariot;
Khorne Chariot;
Khorne Chariot;
Khorne Chariot;
8 Hounds;
8 Hounds;
Ambushers;
11 Gors; 13 Ungors; FC
11 Gors; 13 Ungors; FC
6 Hounds;
6 Hounds;
+ Characters.
Pre Game Thoughts;
I have always thought Beasts were best suited to fighting armies that relied quite heavily on Fire Power, much like my list here. Khazrak would also be a pain and I had a lot of heavy hitter to deal with on the table to start. I would deploy right against my edge to stop them getting in behind me so he would have to deal with cheap throw away missile units with his herds for a few turns, giving me time to stop the heavy hitters and then turn to face the new threat.
Early Game;
Beasts went first. 2 Chariots down each flank, Drogers with Hound screens down the centre.
I opened up my shooting, busting a Chariot with a Cannon, killing some Hounds and a Dragon Ogre.
The Ambush was called, Khazrak and unit right in my right corner, the Wargor and unit in my left, each supported with a Hound unit. The Chariots and Drogers continued their advance.
I ignored the threats on my flanks for now. Shooting and Magic downing a few Hounds, wounding chariots, killing another Drogre and panicking the unit that was now down to 2 models. My Peg Cap charged the last Chariot on my right flank, doing a wound, the Beastigor did 0 wounds. The 6 S3 attacks from the steeds and Ungor then did 3 wounds on my Peg!, resulting in me breaking and getting caught.
Drogers rallied. Khazrak charged my Crossbow unit, the Wargors unit charging my Crossbows on the other flank. My Crossbows on my left fled. My unit fighting Khazrak was beaten and they over ran into my Handgun Detatchment. The other Drogre unit charged my Spears, 1 was down to 1 wound and my Halberd Detatchment killed it and did another 2 wounds, my Free Comp did another. I did lose a lot of Spears to their attacks but I won and broke them, catching them.
Surrounded!;
My Greatswords turned to face the threat on my left flank whilst my Alter moved across to try to deal with Khazraks unit. My Knights moved to take the charge from the Chariot on my right if I had to. My Ogres who had turned around last turn, now c harged the HOunds on my left killing them all. Magic did more damage to the rallied Drogres whilst my Cannon popped that Chariot on my right flank. Khazraks unit killed my Handguns.
Khazraks unit charged into my Cannon. The other Herd into my Greatswords [with no Detatchment support as I had sent the Halberds off to redirect the Drogers earlier but the Drogres had panicked anyway]. My Cannon was killed and he got a big over run and reached my Mortar. My Greatswords just lost the combat but held.
My Alter moved so that if Khazraks unit got to the rear of my Greatswords, he could then flank them. My magic whittled down the enemy to just 1 Drogre. My Ogres turned and finished a wounded Chariot bearing down on them with their Handguns. Leaving just 1 chariot for them to take a charge from. Khazraks unit got my Hotpot and over ran towards the Greatswords.
Closing Stages;
My Ogres got charged by that last Chariot, Kkazraks unit charged the rear of my Greatswords. The Chariot did 7 wounds! but lost 2 in return, my Stubborn Maneater held. Khazraks unit didnt do too much damage to my Greatswords and they continued to hack down the Beasts to their front.
My Alter charged the flank of Khazraks unit, Soulfire went off. My Wizard left my Spears to blast down 1 last Hound whilst my Knights finally got their sights on the last unit of Hounds and killed them all. I did a load of damage in that big combat involving Greatswords, 2 Beast Herds and the Alter, I won by a lot forcing both Herds to take Break Tests on LD 4.........BOTH PASSED!!!. Gah! My Ogre finished that Chariot.
The last Drogre charged a Halberd Detatchment but they beat it and ran it down. Khazrak and his Beasts finally wiped out my Greatswords and BSB.
My last Maneater charged the last remnants of the Wargor Herd, It beat them but they passed their break test. My Alter beat Khazraks depleted unit but that also passed another break test.
Result - Draw!
Post Game Thoughts;
GAH!, Getting really frustrated with these draws lately that I should have won. 3 of my last 4 games have been Draws. I was 50 points away from a win, that was 1 more kill on Khazraks unit to take them below half strength. I couldnt believe both those Herds passed Ld4 Break Tests!. Had they broke, I would have had a Massacre rather than a draw.
I was happy with my list and the game went as I thought it would, sacrficing my shooting units to deal with his heavy hittings starters before holding up his Herds and using my Alter and Maneaters to smash them. Just those break tests passed ruining things.
I think I will use my 1500 Ludwig list for my last game.