Riftblade characters and army

[Deraj]

Well, I enjoy the idea of Riftblades in Wood Elves. Riftblades are Wood Elves who are motivated extremely by vengance. They don't solely work toward their own vengance, but they work together so that others will help them obtain their vengance. So far I have 2 ideas for characters, a hero choice that is a Wardancer and a Noble on a dragon.

Shadowfast
Shadowfast was a wardancer in the warhammer comics, namely issues 0, 7-11, and 13. He is motivated by the death of his lover(and his family too) and is a great hunter of the shadows and, strangely for a wardancer, worships kurnuos.


Shadowfast counts as a hero choice and may only join units of Waywatchers and Wardancers. He is worth 200 points. He may not be the general.

M 5
WS 6
BS 6
S 4
T 3
W 3
I 7
A 4(5)
LD 9

One must live:
Shadowfast is a terror to his enemies and allows one to get away to inform their enemies of the terror that is Shadowfast. He and any unit he is with must make a leadership test to persue.

Fury of Kurnuos:
Shadowfast and his entire unit gain the "fury of kurnuos" special rule.

Forest Stalker:
Shadowfast is a master hunter and therefore has the rule Forest Stalker.

Wardancer:
Shadowfast has Wardancer Weapons (already counted in profile), Shadow Dances of Loec, ItP, and Talisminic Tatoos.


I have not yet made rules for his magical staff because.... I haven't read that far. I will probably make it as an optional upgrade.

Staff of the Necromancer of Athel Loren- 100 points.
Shadowfast loses 2 attacks and gains killing blow. He and his unit have [Regeneration or ethereal, it summons the dead, as powerful and graceful as in life, but ethereal, so I'm not sure which is better. Are Shades undead elves? I may just have the staff give him a unit of them rather than regen or ethereal...]


C&C Welcome/asked for.

I also am trying to come up with a way to fit Eternal Guard into my list. I'm thinking that.... whatever they were guarding was destroyed. I will be running this army without tree spirits once again, but I am thinking of Great Eagles, since Shadowfast was from Equos, where the eyries of the eagles and hawks are. I may even use some hawk riders, but I'm not sure.

Although..... my codex specifically states that I can take DoW, I could try some knights or a hard armored unit. Or I could use a cannon...

Or I could forgoe rares.

[Arguleon Veq]

What book is he from? The only Wood Elf novel I have read so far is Guardians of the Forest.

I think with giving his unit the Fury of Kronous rule he should be about 200 points. Added into that his extra attacks Ireckon he should be about 215.

Let the staff give his unit Ethereal.

[Deraj]

One of the extra attacks is due to him being a wardancer, so I just added it into his profile, I'll update that. Thank you on the staff, and.... I think 200 seems much better than 150.

www.blacklibrary.com/free-stuff/downloads/warhammer-monthly/default.asp is where he is from.

I also wanted to make some rules for a Riftblade army.

Eternal Guard- stay special, even with a noble.

Waywatchers- 2 units count as a single rare.

Glade Guard Scouts- Due to the individuality of Riftblades, the limit on units of Scouts is removed (the "cannot have more than units of Glade Guard")


Magic Weapons-
Riftblade- Ignores armor and grants +1 strength on the charge. [I'm not sure on points]

[grunt90]

I would say a 65 point weapon. ignoring armour in fantasy? thats pretty powerful.

also i'll help playtest

[Deraj]

On a stength of 5 though? mmmmm..... (It was going to be the weapon for the Dragon lord)


Also, would you mind trying to playtest it too Veq?

[Arguleon Veq]

Doubt I will get much chance to be honest dude, im the middle of my Chaos' 10 games and it will be a while till I get to my Wood Elves. I will see If i can get anybody else to though.

[Deraj]

Ah. Well, I got a Reaper dragon, the mounted Wood Elf with the Badass mask, 3 more waywatchers, a wardancer command, another unit of wardancers, and an eternal guard command. I also got a reaper mini that should be good as Shadowfast.

My Shadowfast model (I bent his swords so they're straight)

The Dragon.... except the picture doesn't show that mine came with two right wings.

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Wood Elf Highborn-550
Forest Dragon
Amaranthine Brooch
Daith’s Reaper

Wood Elf Noble-129
Starfire Arrows
A murder of Spites
Extra hand weapon

Shadowfast-200

13 Eternal Guard w/ FC –186
12 Glade Guard w/ fc- 168
12 Glade Guard w/ fc- 168
10 Wardancers w/ FC-201
12 Wardancers w/ FC-237
5 Wild Riders w/ FC- 166

2005

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Wood Elf Highborn-550
Forest Dragon
Amaranthine Brooch
Daith’s Reaper

Wood Elf Noble-129
Starfire Arrows
A murder of Spites
Extra hand weapon

Shadowfast w/ staff-300

12 Wardancers w/ FC-237
12 Wardancers w/ FC-237
12 Glade Guard w/ fc- 168
12 Glade Guard w/ fc- 168
8 Gladeriders-210

1999

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I really want to see if Grunt can do a 3000...

I have no magic either. I'm not frightened enough of Beast magic, so as long as he doesn't use MoT, I'll probably be fine. These are just for playtests on both leaders, so I hope he won't list build.

The only friend I know that could do a 4000, which would be extremely fun would have an enourmous amount of magic,so.....

[Arguleon Veq]

With the first list I would drop Full Command on the Glade Guard. Then split the Wardancer units down into 3 units.

With the second, I would again drop the Command on the Guard. Then split the Dancers into 4 units.

I wouldn't underestimate Beast magic though, they can still pump out a lot of powerdice with some decent laws.

I dont like Daiths Reaper to be honest, especially against Beasts with bad armour. Id be tempted for the Spirit Sword against them with their bad Ld. If rather have a plain Spear then the Reaper. If you do drop it and just opt for a Spear, then maybe the Wraithstone should fill your points out. Beasts taking a Terror test on -1 will really mess them up.

[Deraj]

I'm honestly thinking about just dropping the Dragon. I like my model, but I don't hink he's worth it. I guess this means no worries on that sword though

I think I'll just split the wardancers in the 2nd list into 3 units, rexcind my "no eternals as troops" then take a Noble and 2 units of Eternals as troops.

You're quite right about dropping the full commands from the Glade Guard, since I don't intend for them to get into combat, and if they are, it won't matter.

Now when I get a chance I just need to configure a lord and a Spellsinger.

[Deraj]

Not to bump or anything, but reading through some of the wood elf information, there were high preists of Loec (the wardancer god.) I have it here because Shadowfast was one. The only other one I found was Cireneval. They seem to lead warbands of a few bands of wardancers and waywatchers, whcih seems to fit Shadowfast perfectly, but I don't know anything else about them. I jsut wanted to know if anyone else had any ingo one them?

I was thinking of running a list that is heavy in glade guard and (god how I hate them) glade guard scouts, with wardancers as the specials and waywathcers for the rares.