Post by Arguleon Veq on Nov 15, 2008 10:31:19 GMT -5
Game 3 - Vs Vampire Counts - 1500 Points
The Monsterous Horde - Throgg Army
I thought I may as well give this list varient a try, thought it would be fun to use and make a nice change.
Only 1500 this time though as I wanted Throgg to be my main character. Here is my list;
Throgg;
3 Trolls;
4 Trolls;
4 Dragon Ogres;
Great Weapons;
4 Ogres;
Chaos ARmour, Great Weapons,
Mark of Khorne. Standard, Champ.
5 Hounds;
5 Hounds;
Spawn;
Spawn;
23 Marauders;
Slaanesh, Full Command, Flails.
Sorcerer;
2 Dispell Scrolls.
My opponent used a magic heavy Ghoul Horde;
Thrall;
Extra Level, Summon Ghouls.
Bloody Hauberk.
Thrall;
Extra Level, Summon Ghouls.
Flayed Hauberk.
Thrall;
Ghoulkin, Summon Ghouls.
Gem of Blood.
14 Ghouls; Ghast.
14 Ghouls; Ghast.
14 Ghouls; Ghast.
15 Ghouls;
15 Ghouls;
Cart; Lodestone.
Cart; Lodestone.
Varghulf;
Pre Game Thoughts;
I would obviously have to go Vampire hunting and very early. They had a lot of defensive items though which was annoying. If I didnt kill them quickly I would be easily overwhelmed with Ghouls. I would try to use my Hounds to take the flanks and provide enough combat res to wipe out units. The Spawn could hold up the Ghoul units without Thralls.
Trogla waited in the shadows, he was not like other Trolls. He was birthed from the same spawning litter as Throgg himself and like all 9 of that birthing, he had within him a dark intelligence. He had not been so quick to kill humans though, he had found that many weak tribes worshipped him as a god, and they were useful. Though mewling and weak, they provided his army numbers, their pale and emaciated forms made Trogla grin, humans servants to Trolls. The Irony. Following his monsterous horde and feeding on the scraps of battle. Whipping themselves up into a frenzy of blood when battle neared. They were led by their shaman who had led them into the worship of Trogla, for Trogla could offer them protection from more powerful tribes and fresh meat was plentiful in his wake
His army needed to eat though and most of it could not live on scraps like the humans. They could smell the dead of this battlefield from miles away. Plenty of meat. Even dragon meat, something which Trogla would be sure to take the lions share of. They were not the only scavengers to scent this feast though. Hunched and debased forms lurked amongst the corpses, feeding hungrily. Much like his human worshippers but these creatures served a different master. He would crush this pack of Vampires and their pitiful minions for straying into his territory. He would add their bodies to the feast!
Early Game - Scavenger Scrap;
I got first turn and everything moved up with my Hounds on the flanks. The Ghouls hung back and added more bodies to their units with Thralls in.
My Dragon Ogres crashed into one of the central Thrall blocks, 2 getting into contact with the Vamp. 1 combat later I had only caused 1 wound on him after he passed 3 out of 4, 5+ Wards and only killed 1 other Ghoul. I also lost a wound. I broke but escaped the Ghouls. A very bad start.
More Ghouls were raised as I focussed on stopping the Vamp from healing.
The Varghulf smashed into my Spawn on my left flank whilst a unit on my right turned to try and face the Ghouls getting round their flank. They used Danse Macabre to charge and kill the hounds. 2 centarl units of Ghouls, each with a Thrall charged Throggs unit. The wounded Vampire on the edge of his unit was not in contact with the Trolls, I cut down a fair few Ghouls and only lost a couple of Wounds, I also killed the Unwounded Vamp with a pair of Trolls. Throggs unit lost but held. The Varghulf Wounded the Spawn.
Mass Brawl;
My Dragon Ogres rallied as my Ogres charged the flank of the big central combat, as the wounded Thrall was on the edge of the unit, I managed to kill him off with my Ogre champ. He again though passed 3 out of 4, 5+ wards so it cut down on my combat res. Throgg and his Trolls lost a Troll but did some damage, as did the rest of my Ogres, I won and some Ghouls crumbled.
My hounds got between the Ghouls that had a charge on my Ogre unit flank, I didnt want them also joining that combat and turning against me, so i angled my Hounds to take them away from that fight.
The Varghulf and Spawn wounded each other. My other Spawn couldnt reach the flank of the Ghouls who had killed the Hounds.
In the enemy turn, some Ghouls were restored to t he main combat. The Ghouls on my right flank turned to face the spawn whilst the last unit with a Thrall moved to get in front of my other Troll unit to stop them reaching the main combat. The Ghouls on my left flank charged the Hounds, wiping them out.
The main combat ground on but i was winning by more now. The Ghouls killed off the Hounds in the other combat and the Varghulf killed the Spawn and was now facing the Dragon Ogres.
So my Dragon Ogres moved away to engage the Ghouls on my left flank whilst my Marauders turned to face the Varghulf to lure it away. I trusted them to beat it, I thought the Dragon Ogres would lose. The Spawn charged the Thrall-less unit on my right. Whilst the other Trolls charged the last Thrall, I again got 2 Trolls in, I only caused 1 wound but he rolled a 1 for his Gem of Blood and so he died. I killed a few more Ghouls. The main combat seen more and more Ghouls fall for another Dead Troll and a dead Ogre. I won again though.
Later Stages;
The Ghouls did charge my Dragon Ogres and the Varghulf my Marauders. My Champ issued his challenge and died but I still won with combat res and the beast lost another wound.
My Spawn killed a few Ghouls and wasn't wounded.
The main combat continued but a Corpse cart charged the flank of my Ogres to try to swing things, killing an Ogre. I still won though and most of the Ghouls now crumbled. Leaving just the squad in contact with the Ogres and the Cart. My Dragon Ogres smashed Ghouls to paste and easily won their combat.
My other Trolls let me down though, losing and breaking but getting away from the Ghouls.
I rallied my Trolls, Throgg now free of that main combat with his surviving Troll buddy moved to intercept the Ghouls who had chased off my other Ghoul unit. My Spawn continued to kill a few more Ghouls whilst my Dragon Ogres wiped out the Ghouls they were fighting. My Sorcerer stepped up to fight the Varghulf and thanks to only suffering 1 wound, the monster lost another to combat res.
The last free Ghoul unit charged Throgg and his Troll but they were killed for their trouble. My Spawn finally lost a wound and my Ogres finished the Ghouls and wounded the corpse cart. The Varghulf finished my Sorcerer but died to combat res.
In my last turn the rallied Trolls charged into the Spawn combat but couldn't wipe the Ghouls out. The Dragon Ogres smashed the Corpse Cart with a charge.
In the Ghoul last turn, the Ghoul unit survived and the Corpse Cart charged Throggs Troll Buddy and killed him. Throgg wounded the Cart in return but it survived the game.
Result - Win.
Massacre for the Forces of Chaos!
Post Game Thoughts;
I thought it was lost when my Dragon Ogres failed initially and so many Ghouls were raised in the first two turns. Throggs unit passing plenty of Regen Saves helped sway that main combat though and the Khorne Ogres really helped. It also seen two Thralls die. It still may have been closer but for the other Thrall failing its Gem of Blood save and from then on it was pretty much over.
The army held up really well, all my monster units had at least a 4+ Save or Regen against anything the regular Ghouls could throw at me which was handy. By focussing on taking down the characters though and taking units away that could have swung that main combat is what got me the win.
NOTE - In both of those games, I must have made about 7-8 Eye of the Gods rolls. In the first I got +1 Armour Saves and 2 results of the Gods not looking. In the second with all those regen saves. I got a couple that made my Trolls stupid, so a wasted roll, a couple of +1 Armour Saves for a rubbish 6+ Save. A fair few with the Gods not looking again and 1 for +1Ld. The gods hate me!
The Monsterous Horde - Throgg Army
I thought I may as well give this list varient a try, thought it would be fun to use and make a nice change.
Only 1500 this time though as I wanted Throgg to be my main character. Here is my list;
Throgg;
3 Trolls;
4 Trolls;
4 Dragon Ogres;
Great Weapons;
4 Ogres;
Chaos ARmour, Great Weapons,
Mark of Khorne. Standard, Champ.
5 Hounds;
5 Hounds;
Spawn;
Spawn;
23 Marauders;
Slaanesh, Full Command, Flails.
Sorcerer;
2 Dispell Scrolls.
My opponent used a magic heavy Ghoul Horde;
Thrall;
Extra Level, Summon Ghouls.
Bloody Hauberk.
Thrall;
Extra Level, Summon Ghouls.
Flayed Hauberk.
Thrall;
Ghoulkin, Summon Ghouls.
Gem of Blood.
14 Ghouls; Ghast.
14 Ghouls; Ghast.
14 Ghouls; Ghast.
15 Ghouls;
15 Ghouls;
Cart; Lodestone.
Cart; Lodestone.
Varghulf;
Pre Game Thoughts;
I would obviously have to go Vampire hunting and very early. They had a lot of defensive items though which was annoying. If I didnt kill them quickly I would be easily overwhelmed with Ghouls. I would try to use my Hounds to take the flanks and provide enough combat res to wipe out units. The Spawn could hold up the Ghoul units without Thralls.
Trogla waited in the shadows, he was not like other Trolls. He was birthed from the same spawning litter as Throgg himself and like all 9 of that birthing, he had within him a dark intelligence. He had not been so quick to kill humans though, he had found that many weak tribes worshipped him as a god, and they were useful. Though mewling and weak, they provided his army numbers, their pale and emaciated forms made Trogla grin, humans servants to Trolls. The Irony. Following his monsterous horde and feeding on the scraps of battle. Whipping themselves up into a frenzy of blood when battle neared. They were led by their shaman who had led them into the worship of Trogla, for Trogla could offer them protection from more powerful tribes and fresh meat was plentiful in his wake
His army needed to eat though and most of it could not live on scraps like the humans. They could smell the dead of this battlefield from miles away. Plenty of meat. Even dragon meat, something which Trogla would be sure to take the lions share of. They were not the only scavengers to scent this feast though. Hunched and debased forms lurked amongst the corpses, feeding hungrily. Much like his human worshippers but these creatures served a different master. He would crush this pack of Vampires and their pitiful minions for straying into his territory. He would add their bodies to the feast!
Early Game - Scavenger Scrap;
I got first turn and everything moved up with my Hounds on the flanks. The Ghouls hung back and added more bodies to their units with Thralls in.
My Dragon Ogres crashed into one of the central Thrall blocks, 2 getting into contact with the Vamp. 1 combat later I had only caused 1 wound on him after he passed 3 out of 4, 5+ Wards and only killed 1 other Ghoul. I also lost a wound. I broke but escaped the Ghouls. A very bad start.
More Ghouls were raised as I focussed on stopping the Vamp from healing.
The Varghulf smashed into my Spawn on my left flank whilst a unit on my right turned to try and face the Ghouls getting round their flank. They used Danse Macabre to charge and kill the hounds. 2 centarl units of Ghouls, each with a Thrall charged Throggs unit. The wounded Vampire on the edge of his unit was not in contact with the Trolls, I cut down a fair few Ghouls and only lost a couple of Wounds, I also killed the Unwounded Vamp with a pair of Trolls. Throggs unit lost but held. The Varghulf Wounded the Spawn.
Mass Brawl;
My Dragon Ogres rallied as my Ogres charged the flank of the big central combat, as the wounded Thrall was on the edge of the unit, I managed to kill him off with my Ogre champ. He again though passed 3 out of 4, 5+ wards so it cut down on my combat res. Throgg and his Trolls lost a Troll but did some damage, as did the rest of my Ogres, I won and some Ghouls crumbled.
My hounds got between the Ghouls that had a charge on my Ogre unit flank, I didnt want them also joining that combat and turning against me, so i angled my Hounds to take them away from that fight.
The Varghulf and Spawn wounded each other. My other Spawn couldnt reach the flank of the Ghouls who had killed the Hounds.
In the enemy turn, some Ghouls were restored to t he main combat. The Ghouls on my right flank turned to face the spawn whilst the last unit with a Thrall moved to get in front of my other Troll unit to stop them reaching the main combat. The Ghouls on my left flank charged the Hounds, wiping them out.
The main combat ground on but i was winning by more now. The Ghouls killed off the Hounds in the other combat and the Varghulf killed the Spawn and was now facing the Dragon Ogres.
So my Dragon Ogres moved away to engage the Ghouls on my left flank whilst my Marauders turned to face the Varghulf to lure it away. I trusted them to beat it, I thought the Dragon Ogres would lose. The Spawn charged the Thrall-less unit on my right. Whilst the other Trolls charged the last Thrall, I again got 2 Trolls in, I only caused 1 wound but he rolled a 1 for his Gem of Blood and so he died. I killed a few more Ghouls. The main combat seen more and more Ghouls fall for another Dead Troll and a dead Ogre. I won again though.
Later Stages;
The Ghouls did charge my Dragon Ogres and the Varghulf my Marauders. My Champ issued his challenge and died but I still won with combat res and the beast lost another wound.
My Spawn killed a few Ghouls and wasn't wounded.
The main combat continued but a Corpse cart charged the flank of my Ogres to try to swing things, killing an Ogre. I still won though and most of the Ghouls now crumbled. Leaving just the squad in contact with the Ogres and the Cart. My Dragon Ogres smashed Ghouls to paste and easily won their combat.
My other Trolls let me down though, losing and breaking but getting away from the Ghouls.
I rallied my Trolls, Throgg now free of that main combat with his surviving Troll buddy moved to intercept the Ghouls who had chased off my other Ghoul unit. My Spawn continued to kill a few more Ghouls whilst my Dragon Ogres wiped out the Ghouls they were fighting. My Sorcerer stepped up to fight the Varghulf and thanks to only suffering 1 wound, the monster lost another to combat res.
The last free Ghoul unit charged Throgg and his Troll but they were killed for their trouble. My Spawn finally lost a wound and my Ogres finished the Ghouls and wounded the corpse cart. The Varghulf finished my Sorcerer but died to combat res.
In my last turn the rallied Trolls charged into the Spawn combat but couldn't wipe the Ghouls out. The Dragon Ogres smashed the Corpse Cart with a charge.
In the Ghoul last turn, the Ghoul unit survived and the Corpse Cart charged Throggs Troll Buddy and killed him. Throgg wounded the Cart in return but it survived the game.
Result - Win.
Massacre for the Forces of Chaos!
Post Game Thoughts;
I thought it was lost when my Dragon Ogres failed initially and so many Ghouls were raised in the first two turns. Throggs unit passing plenty of Regen Saves helped sway that main combat though and the Khorne Ogres really helped. It also seen two Thralls die. It still may have been closer but for the other Thrall failing its Gem of Blood save and from then on it was pretty much over.
The army held up really well, all my monster units had at least a 4+ Save or Regen against anything the regular Ghouls could throw at me which was handy. By focussing on taking down the characters though and taking units away that could have swung that main combat is what got me the win.
NOTE - In both of those games, I must have made about 7-8 Eye of the Gods rolls. In the first I got +1 Armour Saves and 2 results of the Gods not looking. In the second with all those regen saves. I got a couple that made my Trolls stupid, so a wasted roll, a couple of +1 Armour Saves for a rubbish 6+ Save. A fair few with the Gods not looking again and 1 for +1Ld. The gods hate me!