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Post by elflord9d on Feb 1, 2005 10:28:12 GMT -5
i was thinking about the war of the beard and i think there are upsdes and downsides to the war.
UPSIDES: the wood elves were made during this war.
DOWNSIDES: the elves and dwarf were fooled bye the dark elves into a war and it broke a powerful bond between the two.
anyone have comments or more upsides and downsides?
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Post by monkeyking on Feb 1, 2005 17:06:02 GMT -5
can you say that because of the war of the beard that the wood elves were formed?
I mean correct me if I am wrong, the wood elves came about because the high elves withdrew from the old world areas to rally againest the dark elves. some elves liked where they were and so stayed. I mean that is what I remember....
otherwise some bad stuff is the lose of some of the greatest treasures the dwarfs and elves had on some of their heroes. Also the loss of the golden age.....
some good things are that the stinky smelly elves can stay in ulthuan!
(I play both so yeah!)
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Post by Arguleon Veq on Feb 1, 2005 17:38:25 GMT -5
Well it did allow man to come to power, but it also left the place overun by orcs for a long time.
The fact that the elves left allowed orcs to roam free thus compounding the effect that the great earthquakes had on the dwarfs as the orcs capitalised on this to attack them.
It broke an alliance that could and was easily dealing with chaos.
If they stayed allied the dark elves would have been delt with.
It was in an indirect way the reason why wood elves come to be.
Also the war of the beard rules has some great dragon princes (riding less powerful dragons called drakes i think).
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Post by elflord9d on Feb 1, 2005 19:21:10 GMT -5
some good things are that the stinky smelly elves can stay in ulthuan! *aims bow* the wood elves decided to stay after being recalled because they wanted to safe the forest from the dwarven smithing furnaces. the phionix king called the elves back because of the dark elves and the dwarves. mainly dwarves because they were at war with them. but dark elves because the dark elves posed as high elves and started the war of the beard. and they were raiding the shores where the high elves lived(not that they dont now : I know cause i just read it have any of you read the story in the 300th issue of the white dwarf? that was awsome how the dwarves and elves fought side by side. but alas the dwarves and the grudges )
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Post by Arguleon Veq on Feb 1, 2005 19:32:42 GMT -5
I'd say the Dwarfs won the war of the beard. Well they did.
The Wood Elves actually now view even high elves as their enemies, they view everyone as their enemies although they are willing to let this go at times when they need help from others.
They claim the high elves have betrayed their elf heretage by turning their backs on Isha and Kurnous.
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Post by elflord9d on Feb 1, 2005 19:58:56 GMT -5
yup. but i'd say the elves won. the dwarves retreted into the east. (and isnt that when the chaos dwarves started?)
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Post by monkeyking on Feb 1, 2005 22:02:40 GMT -5
actually hate to sound bias but the dwarfs invaded ulthuan for one thing and one thing only, to get back at the elves. They did this by taking the phoenix crown and still have it to this day, they didn't retreat, they got what they wanted and left with the crown......
The chaos dwarfs were long after the dwarfs retreated. What happened was the ringing of the dread bell at skavenblight which caused the earthquakes throughout the old world. many halls were cut off and some dwarf holds were destroyed so some travelled east into the dead lands and weren't seen until much later....
at least that was how it was way back.....
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Post by Arguleon Veq on Feb 2, 2005 6:04:33 GMT -5
From the fluf i have, and have read the dwarfs didnt invade Ulthuan.
They took the crown in the old world after killing the king in a battle.
Also most of the earthquakes were caused by the slann shifting things around (like continents) wasn't it?. Following the plan of the old ones.
The ringing of the bell could have caused afew but from the lizardmen army book thats what i gathered (although iv eonly read it once).
Yeh it wasnt the elves that sent some dwarfs into the east. They went on their own accord, they werent actually seen as evil they just upped and left. Although when they were encountered again the drawfs realised what had become of them.
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Post by monkeyking on Feb 2, 2005 13:45:17 GMT -5
your'e right it was in the old world.....
lizardmen......the thing you have to realise is that the lizardmen are conceited in a way. They feel they were the ones that are highest on the evolutionary scale. What they do is the right and will of the old ones, so of course they caused the earthquakes......by their reckoning.....the fact is that it was a huge amount of events happening all at once.....
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Post by elflord9d on Feb 2, 2005 13:48:31 GMT -5
and thus was the fall of the golden age right?
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Post by monkeyking on Feb 2, 2005 14:50:39 GMT -5
well the end of the dwarf/elf golden age but by no means the end of the golden ages?!
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Post by Tronn on Feb 2, 2005 16:59:14 GMT -5
I agree, the end of golden age as dwarfs and elves know it but the coming of the power of men
(if one could call men powerful, men a weak mwuhaha)
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Post by elflord9d on Feb 3, 2005 11:30:15 GMT -5
i agree but seeing as how im an elf that was the end of my golden ages i wish the dwarf and elves would reunite again
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Post by Ogreking on Feb 20, 2005 17:57:57 GMT -5
Not by the hair on my chin lad lol. Bunch of backstabbers they are. Why in my day when elves fought properly and where built like a grox, we could go for weeks without food (but not drink) and the average life expectancy of a grobi was 2 seconds, elves where a bunch of stuck up lil feths with something ramed up their noses. Theres no change to this day. All elves BELIEVE themselves to be better nowadays. They hide away in their forests or on their islands and dont do much anymore except grumble and fuss. Sure we dwarfs do the same but, hey least we communicate with people.
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Post by elflord9d on Feb 22, 2005 12:57:08 GMT -5
we think we're better cause we are. dwarves and elves hide out in there places of......stuff. and it's not like the dwarves are nicer to the rest of the world as elves are. there about the same.
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